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Obama would call a meeting, Mitt Romney would give flowers, Ron Paul would shoot from the hip,  Michele Bachmann would darn their socks,  Newt Gingrich would use a shot gun with a laser scope.

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I have to ask myself if I believe what I am reading!
Obama’s Christmas gift to Americans: Complete nullification of the Bill of Rights Under the NDAA:
• You may be arrested and indefinitely detained merely for being “suspected” of any involvement whatsoever with “terrorism” — a term that can be twisted to mean almost anything, including protesting against animal testing laboratories or chaining yourself to a tree as an environmental protester.
• You no longer have a right to legal representation.
• You can be held for life without ever being charged for any crime.
• You no longer have a right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
• You can be murdered by the government — legally! — without ever being charged with a crime.
• The government does not have to present ANY evidence against you to take all these actions. The government merely has to assert that you are “suspected” of being involved in “terrorism.” Such suspicion, of course, could be dreamed up against anyone! Political opponents, Free Speech proponents, protesters, dissenters… anyone at all.
283 traitorous, criminal members of the House voted YES The complete list of the traitorous, criminal members of the House who voted YES on this bill — all of which must now be arrested and prosecuted under the laws of the U.S. Constitution — is available here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/rol
Read these names well, because they will go down in history as the seditious elitists who betrayed the American people in their most desperate hour, unleashing total police state tyranny against the innocent.
That these people in Congress somehow think they have the right to strip away the very freedoms GUARNTEED the American people under the U.S. Constitution is an outright violation of their own sworn oaths to protect that Constitution. It is also a deeply spiritual violation of natural law and a fundamental betrayal of the very principles upon which this country is founded.
We warned ya, and you didn’t listen Here at NaturalNews — and even more so at places like InfoWars.com — we warned you about this very thing, sometimes screaming at the top of our lungs that if we didn’t reverse the Patriot Act and stop the irrational and unrelenting “war on terror,” we would all end up slaves under a system of total government tyranny.
The public laughed and mocked us. “That will never happen in America. We’re a free country,” they insisted. The trolls accused us of fear mongering. The mainstream media said we were crazy.
And now, here we are, with the indefinite military detention bill passed by both houses, and the White House saying it will sign it, granting the military the “administrative right” to kidnap you in the middle of the night, steal you away from your family, throw you in a secret military prison and hold you there for the rest of your life without ever being charged with a crime or given legal representation of any kind.
The time for denial is over, friends. We warned ya! Over and over again, screaming for anyone intelligent enough who might listen, we warned about the Patriot Act, the Bush-era “war on terror,” the government’s false flag 9/11 attack, the secret military prisons, and the criminality of key people within the Obama administration such as Eric Holder who ran Operation Fast & Furious.
We warned you, and you didn’t listen. So now here we are on the verge of the Bill of Rights being nullified by Congress and President Obama, and most of America remains hopelessly asleep at the wheel, having no idea what they have allowed to unfold right in front of them. Tyranny is like a serpent that slithers into your tent, silently and maliciously, coiling around your torso and neck while you sleep. By the time you notice what’s happen and try to scream, it’s already too late.
People will start to “disappear” across America So now, thanks to the NDAA and the Obama administration — which has proven to be a far greater threat to our liberties than even the Bush administration was — people in America will simply “disappear” in the middle of the night, as covert military teams kidnap them, take them away, and torture them — all with the full approval of President Obama who once promised he would close Gitmo.
Close it? Heck, this guy’s planning on filling Gitmo with Americans!
Every President, when sworn into office, swears upon a bible that they will protect and defend the United States Constitution. The NDDA law is a gross violation of that oath to God, and that makes the passage of this act not merely a betrayal of the American people, but a spiritual betrayal to a higher power. And that’s something these members of Congress who voted for this bill will have to answer for.
Their souls are marked for eternity. This is a betrayal of natural law and spiritual truth. It is also, of course, a gross violation of U.S. law and the Constitution itself. That the passage of such a law is even contemplated by members of Congress is, all by itself, such a malicious violation against America that if a law with the exact same wording were proposed in 1789, those who voted for such a law would have been shot on sight and memorialized as criminal traitors to the United States of America.
It only took 222 years for the American people to forget what freedom means, apparently. And now, Americans are so asleep, drugged up and ill-informed that they won’t even speak out against the very government that’s coiling around their necks and strangling them to death.
“It turns out that destroying the American democratic republic was easy to accomplish,” writes David Seaman from BusinessInsider.com (http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa…). “Simply get the three major cable news networks to blather on about useless bull**** for a few days, while legislators meet in secret behind closed doors to rush through the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA), and its evil twin sister, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), which is a clever name for an Internet censorship bill straight out of an Orwellian nightmare.”
Sources for this story include: (must read)
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/rol
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa
http://www.unitedliberty.org/articl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/12
http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/ameri
http://loyalopposition.blogs.nytime
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They already have done it. A while ago I read about a drug dealer in Chicago who was able to elude being caught.  The guy took a trip out of the country but when he returned to Chicago the Gestapo .. opps  I mean the DEA held him at an undisclosed location for a month or two.  I just tried to find the complete story  but ….
DHS refuses to release any information under the Freedom of Information Act citing “Security” as the reason for denial.
This seems to have become law enforcements “Wild Card”.  If they can’t find sufficient evidence to charge you with a suspected crime , then they can simply use the wild card to arrest you and keep you without a lawyer or due process.
Don’t say they can’t do it … they already have
We may soon find ourselves in a position where public criticism could get you or your family arrested … I suspect this forum will cease to exist
 
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Civil war is coming…..I suspect the big brother already has us all on their list.
 
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ZThere’s gotta be somthinbg we can do. Can’t CONgress do something?
Some kind of recall process. If America was to scream loud enough……
How many Teaparty activists vs how many CONgress people have we? I need to find the C & S  Fax #s again.My e-address is Do I dare publish it again with all the trouble I think they gave?
 
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Rich, try  http://www.gotfreefax.com/
I still want to know the source of information on the DEA involvement Huh?
 
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This issue deserves every bit as much enthusiasm, in opposition, as the health care bill got from the tea party. I do not see any sign of such a movement though, its as if the tea party isn’t that concerned about a blatant treasonistic law being passed right in front of our eyes. Amazing! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
 
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I have seen it posted on Traditional Americans and on TPO forums.  And I’ve received emails from WND, CowboyByte, the AFP submitted petitions against it, and so did Tea Party Patriot – they have a way to submit free petitions. I’ve signed and sent all. Also wrote to my congress members.  The big problem is almost oll of these members are willing to pass it – there are few that are against the bills. HR1540 & SB1867.
 
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I now doubt the weight of petitions, as I have signed many, but have seen no visible impact. I was hoping to see crowds of people willing to repeat the showing that took to DC during the healthcare vote. I would be willing to go and demonstrate for a cause of this magnitude. This legislation is no small matter.
 
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Pat Caddell was on Fox and Friends this morning with an amazing poll result.  64% don’t believe they have any say in how govt works.  83% believe that the American system is rigged.  71% say the govt does not govern with the consent of the governed.  Caddell said that these are pre-revolutionary numbers.  Never has this nation been so angry at their government.  He believes the nation is ripe for a third party.  He also believes that EVERY in$#%bent is in real trouble in the next election.
Me too !!
 
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kroz…my guess is that 60% of the participants in the poll have no idea how gov. works, rigged system is a common description for every institution for most Americans, and I am sure most voters always felt gov. does what it wants all the time. When congress has an approval rating of 9% it doesn’t take much political insight to say this is a perfect time for a third party candidate. The harder question is who is the person who can lead a third party that can attract enough voters from each party and the independents or all voters from one side and the majority of the independents. That’s the trick….there is no such person at this time.
 
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Caddell has been doing polling for decades.  He says that this is by far the worst he has seen.  He was not advocating a third party or revolution.  He simply made the observation.  As of now, you are quite correct, there is no such candidate for a third party run.  I have never advocated a third party.
But we must all realize that the reason Ron Paul is gaining momentum is because he flies in the face of main stream politics.  People are looking for a “none of the above” candidate.  Paul is the only moose on the horizon!!  Voters are EXTREMELY frustrated.  Paul is a loud and clear protest vote!!  In reality he is the “third party” vote.
If you cannot see that this is an aberration to the norm, I don’t know what to say.
 
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kroz…I have recognized from the beginning that Paul has a true following…it is expected that he would do well in IA…maybe not to win but to do well…that is no surprise….the IA caucus fits nicely for a candidate  like Paul it’s the first primary and it gives the the disenchanted voter an opportunity to register their dissatisfaction with the status quo…but after IA…he loses enthusiasm rapidly and the flame goes out…but his 8 to 10% followers will stay with him all the way to the end…where ever that end might take them.
 
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You may be right jwlud.  At this point I am not sure of anything.
I am just judging based upon posts I read on other sites.  I am seeing more and more posters begin to seriously consider Ron Paul.  These are people who would never have voted for Paul in the past.  They don’t like Paul on all the issues, but they believe that he would make radical reformation to our monetary problems and they think that is the foremost issue.   They are willing to cede international relations in favor of domestic reformation.  They strongly believe that the debt will kill us before our foreign enemies.  They believe that Congress would be a tempering affect on Paul and keep him in line.
People are desperately grasping at straws.  They see no satisfactory candidate on the horizon and are willing to throw the dice.  I see this every single day.
 
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I have to ask myself if I believe what I am reading!
Obama’s Christmas gift to Americans: Complete nullification of the Bill of Rights Under the NDAA:
• You may be arrested and indefinitely detained merely for being “suspected” of any involvement whatsoever with “terrorism” — a term that can be twisted to mean almost anything, including protesting against animal testing laboratories or chaining yourself to a tree as an environmental protester.
• You no longer have a right to legal representation.
• You can be held for life without ever being charged for any crime.
• You no longer have a right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
• You can be murdered by the government — legally! — without ever being charged with a crime.
• The government does not have to present ANY evidence against you to take all these actions. The government merely has to assert that you are “suspected” of being involved in “terrorism.” Such suspicion, of course, could be dreamed up against anyone! Political opponents, Free Speech proponents, protesters, dissenters… anyone at all.
283 traitorous, criminal members of the House voted YES The complete list of the traitorous, criminal members of the House who voted YES on this bill — all of which must now be arrested and prosecuted under the laws of the U.S. Constitution — is available here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/rol
Read these names well, because they will go down in history as the seditious elitists who betrayed the American people in their most desperate hour, unleashing total police state tyranny against the innocent.
That these people in Congress somehow think they have the right to strip away the very freedoms GUARNTEED the American people under the U.S. Constitution is an outright violation of their own sworn oaths to protect that Constitution. It is also a deeply spiritual violation of natural law and a fundamental betrayal of the very principles upon which this country is founded.
We warned ya, and you didn’t listen Here at NaturalNews — and even more so at places like InfoWars.com — we warned you about this very thing, sometimes screaming at the top of our lungs that if we didn’t reverse the Patriot Act and stop the irrational and unrelenting “war on terror,” we would all end up slaves under a system of total government tyranny.
The public laughed and mocked us. “That will never happen in America. We’re a free country,” they insisted. The trolls accused us of fear mongering. The mainstream media said we were crazy.
And now, here we are, with the indefinite military detention bill passed by both houses, and the White House saying it will sign it, granting the military the “administrative right” to kidnap you in the middle of the night, steal you away from your family, throw you in a secret military prison and hold you there for the rest of your life without ever being charged with a crime or given legal representation of any kind.
The time for denial is over, friends. We warned ya! Over and over again, screaming for anyone intelligent enough who might listen, we warned about the Patriot Act, the Bush-era “war on terror,” the government’s false flag 9/11 attack, the secret military prisons, and the criminality of key people within the Obama administration such as Eric Holder who ran Operation Fast & Furious.
We warned you, and you didn’t listen. So now here we are on the verge of the Bill of Rights being nullified by Congress and President Obama, and most of America remains hopelessly asleep at the wheel, having no idea what they have allowed to unfold right in front of them. Tyranny is like a serpent that slithers into your tent, silently and maliciously, coiling around your torso and neck while you sleep. By the time you notice what’s happen and try to scream, it’s already too late.
People will start to “disappear” across America So now, thanks to the NDAA and the Obama administration — which has proven to be a far greater threat to our liberties than even the Bush administration was — people in America will simply “disappear” in the middle of the night, as covert military teams kidnap them, take them away, and torture them — all with the full approval of President Obama who once promised he would close Gitmo.
Close it? Heck, this guy’s planning on filling Gitmo with Americans!
Every President, when sworn into office, swears upon a bible that they will protect and defend the United States Constitution. The NDDA law is a gross violation of that oath to God, and that makes the passage of this act not merely a betrayal of the American people, but a spiritual betrayal to a higher power. And that’s something these members of Congress who voted for this bill will have to answer for.
Their souls are marked for eternity. This is a betrayal of natural law and spiritual truth. It is also, of course, a gross violation of U.S. law and the Constitution itself. That the passage of such a law is even contemplated by members of Congress is, all by itself, such a malicious violation against America that if a law with the exact same wording were proposed in 1789, those who voted for such a law would have been shot on sight and memorialized as criminal traitors to the United States of America.
It only took 222 years for the American people to forget what freedom means, apparently. And now, Americans are so asleep, drugged up and ill-informed that they won’t even speak out against the very government that’s coiling around their necks and strangling them to death.
“It turns out that destroying the American democratic republic was easy to accomplish,” writes David Seaman from BusinessInsider.com (http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa…). “Simply get the three major cable news networks to blather on about useless bull**** for a few days, while legislators meet in secret behind closed doors to rush through the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA), and its evil twin sister, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), which is a clever name for an Internet censorship bill straight out of an Orwellian nightmare.”
Sources for this story include: (must read)
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/rol
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa
http://www.unitedliberty.org/articl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/12
http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/ameri
http://loyalopposition.blogs.nytime
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They already have done it. A while ago I read about a drug dealer in Chicago who was able to elude being caught.  The guy took a trip out of the country but when he returned to Chicago the Gestapo .. opps  I mean the DEA held him at an undisclosed location for a month or two.  I just tried to find the complete story  but ….
DHS refuses to release any information under the Freedom of Information Act citing “Security” as the reason for denial.
This seems to have become law enforcements “Wild Card”.  If they can’t find sufficient evidence to charge you with a suspected crime , then they can simply use the wild card to arrest you and keep you without a lawyer or due process.
Don’t say they can’t do it … they already have
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Civil war is coming…..I suspect the big brother already has us all on their list.
 
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ZThere’s gotta be somthinbg we can do. Can’t CONgress do something?
Some kind of recall process. If America was to scream loud enough……
How many Teaparty activists vs how many CONgress people have we? I need to find the C & S  Fax #s again.My e-address is Do I dare publish it again with all the trouble I think they gave?
 
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Rich, try  http://www.gotfreefax.com/
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This issue deserves every bit as much enthusiasm, in opposition, as the health care bill got from the tea party. I do not see any sign of such a movement though, its as if the tea party isn’t that concerned about a blatant treasonistic law being passed right in front of our eyes. Amazing! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
 
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I have seen it posted on Traditional Americans and on TPO forums.  And I’ve received emails from WND, CowboyByte, the AFP submitted petitions against it, and so did Tea Party Patriot – they have a way to submit free petitions. I’ve signed and sent all. Also wrote to my congress members.  The big problem is almost oll of these members are willing to pass it – there are few that are against the bills. HR1540 & SB1867.
 
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I now doubt the weight of petitions, as I have signed many, but have seen no visible impact. I was hoping to see crowds of people willing to repeat the showing that took to DC during the healthcare vote. I would be willing to go and demonstrate for a cause of this magnitude. This legislation is no small matter.
 
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Pat Caddell was on Fox and Friends this morning with an amazing poll result.  64% don’t believe they have any say in how govt works.  83% believe that the American system is rigged.  71% say the govt does not govern with the consent of the governed.  Caddell said that these are pre-revolutionary numbers.  Never has this nation been so angry at their government.  He believes the nation is ripe for a third party.  He also believes that EVERY in$#%bent is in real trouble in the next election.
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kroz…my guess is that 60% of the participants in the poll have no idea how gov. works, rigged system is a common description for every institution for most Americans, and I am sure most voters always felt gov. does what it wants all the time. When congress has an approval rating of 9% it doesn’t take much political insight to say this is a perfect time for a third party candidate. The harder question is who is the person who can lead a third party that can attract enough voters from each party and the independents or all voters from one side and the majority of the independents. That’s the trick….there is no such person at this time.
 
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Caddell has been doing polling for decades.  He says that this is by far the worst he has seen.  He was not advocating a third party or revolution.  He simply made the observation.  As of now, you are quite correct, there is no such candidate for a third party run.  I have never advocated a third party.
But we must all realize that the reason Ron Paul is gaining momentum is because he flies in the face of main stream politics.  People are looking for a “none of the above” candidate.  Paul is the only moose on the horizon!!  Voters are EXTREMELY frustrated.  Paul is a loud and clear protest vote!!  In reality he is the “third party” vote.
If you cannot see that this is an aberration to the norm, I don’t know what to say.
 
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kroz…I have recognized from the beginning that Paul has a true following…it is expected that he would do well in IA…maybe not to win but to do well…that is no surprise….the IA caucus fits nicely for a candidate  like Paul it’s the first primary and it gives the the disenchanted voter an opportunity to register their dissatisfaction with the status quo…but after IA…he loses enthusiasm rapidly and the flame goes out…but his 8 to 10% followers will stay with him all the way to the end…where ever that end might take them.
 
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You may be right jwlud.  At this point I am not sure of anything.
I am just judging based upon posts I read on other sites.  I am seeing more and more posters begin to seriously consider Ron Paul.  These are people who would never have voted for Paul in the past.  They don’t like Paul on all the issues, but they believe that he would make radical reformation to our monetary problems and they think that is the foremost issue.   They are willing to cede international relations in favor of domestic reformation.  They strongly believe that the debt will kill us before our foreign enemies.  They believe that Congress would be a tempering affect on Paul and keep him in line.
People are desperately grasping at straws.  They see no satisfactory candidate on the horizon and are willing to throw the dice.  I see this every single day.
 
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OUR FREEDOMS ARE GONE MUST READ

December 17, 2011

THE EXECUTIVE ORDER:

a Presidential Power not designated by the Constitution

By Harry V. Martin with research assistance from David Caul

Copyright FreeAmerica and Harry V. Martin, 1995

Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution is concise in its language, “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” When the Constitution was proposed, those opposed to a strong central government, the anti-Federalists, argued that there was no Bill of Rights to protect the people and that a centralized government would become too powerful, usurping the rights of the individual States.

At the time of its formation, the Constitution was created in secrecy and in direct contradiction to the mandate of the Congress, which was to amend the Articles of Confederation that were governing the infant nation since the end of the American revolution. Under the Articles of Confederation, the President of the United States was known as the President of the United States in Congress Assembled. The one-year Presidency was very limited in its scope, responsibility and authority. The Constitution, in contrast to the Articles of Confederation, established a strong four-year Presidency, but still only providing extremely limited powers to the office.

The greatest fear the founders of this nation had was the establishment of a strong central government and a strong political leader at the center of that government. They no longer wanted kings, potentates or czars, they wanted a loose association of States in which the power emanated from the States and not from the central government.

John Adams advocated that a good government consists of three balancing powers, the legislative, executive and the judicial, that would produce an equilibrium of interests and thereby promote the happiness of the whole community. It was Adams’ theory that the only effectual method to secure the rights of the people and promote their welfare was to create an opposition of interests between the members of two distinct bodies (legislative and executive) in the exercise of the powers of government, and balanced by those of a third (judicial).

THE BILL OF RIGHTS

On June 8, 1789, James Madison proposed the Bills of Rights to the new Congress. Its eventual creation was the outcropping of arguments made in the respective State legislatures debating ratification of the new Constitution. Madison had previously been opposed to the establishment of the Bill of Rights, but the treatises of Thomas Jefferson convinced him of the necessity of such Constitutional amendments. The concept was simple, according to Madison, “That all power is originally vested in, and consequently derived from the people. That government is instituted and ought to be exercised for the benefit of the people; which consists in the enjoyment of life and liberty and the right of acquiring property, and generally of pursing and obtaining happiness and safety. That the people have an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform or change their government whenever it be found adverse or inadequate to the purpose of its institution.”

He further advocated, “The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship…The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable. The people shall not be restrained from peaceably assembling and consulting for their common good; nor for applying to the legislature by petitions or remonstrances for redress of their grievances…The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

The framework of this nation is embodied in the Bill of Rights, unequaled in its time, and surpassed by none to date. Madison also stated, “The rights of the people to be secured in their persons, their houses, their papers, and their other property from all unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated by warrants issued without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, or not particularly describing the places to be searched, or the persons or things to be seized.” He added, “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial to be informed of the cause and nature of the accusation, to be confronted with his accusers and the witnesses against him; to have a compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.”

THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IN TIME OF WAR

Many of the fears of the founding fathers may now be coming to fruition. Today, the executive branch of the government is immensely powerful, much more powerful than the founding fathers had envisioned or wanted. Congressional legislative powers have been usurped. There is no greater example of that usurpation than in the form of the Presidential Executive Order. The process totally by-passes Congressional legislative authority and places in the hands of the President almost unilateral power. The Executive Order governs everything from the Flag Code of the United States to the ability to single-handedly declare Martial Law. Presidents have used the Executive Order in times of emergencies to override the Constitution of the United States and the Congress.

President Andrew Jackson used executive powers to force the law-abiding Cherokee Nation off their ancestral lands. The Cherokee fought the illegal action in the U.S. Supreme Court and won. But Jackson, using the power of the Presidency, continued to order the removal of the Cherokee Nation and defied the Court’s ruling. He stated, “Let the Court try to enforce their ruling.” The Cherokee lost their land and commenced a series of journeys that would be called The Trail of Tears.

President Abraham Lincoln suspended many fundamental rights guaranteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. He closed down newspapers opposed to his war-time policies and imprisoned what many historians now call political prisoners. He suspended the right of trial and the right to be confronted by accusers. Lincoln’s justification for such drastic actions was the preservation of the Union above all things. After the war and Lincoln’s death, Constitutional law was restored.

In 1917, President Woodrow Wilson could not persuade Congress to arm United States vessels plying hostile German waters before the United States entered World War One. When Congress balked, Wilson invoked the policy through a Presidential Executive Order.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued Executive Order No. 9066 in December 1941. His order forced 100,000 Japanese residents in the United States to be rounded up and placed in concentration camps. The property of the Japanese was confiscated. Both Lincoln’s and Roosevelt’s actions were taken during wartime, when the very life of the United States was threatened. Wilson’s action was taken on the eve of the United States entering World War One. Whether history judges these actions as just, proper or legal, the decision must be left to time. The dire life struggle associated with these actions provided plausible argumentation favoring their implementation during a time when hysteria ruled an age.

THE NEW DANGERS

A Presidential Executive Order, whether Constitutional or not, becomes law simply by its publication in the Federal Registry. Congress is by-passed. Here are just a few Executive Orders that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

Without Congressional approval, the President now has the power to transfer whole populations to any part of the country, the power to suspend the Press and to force a national registration of all persons. The President, in essence, has dictatorial powers never provided to him under the Constitution. The President has the power to suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in a real or perceived emergency. Unlike Lincoln and Roosevelt, these powers are not derived from a wartime need, but from any crisis, domestic or foreign, hostile or economic. Roosevelt created extraordinary measures during the Great Depression, but any President faced with a similar, or lesser, economic crisis now has extraordinary powers to assume dictatorial status.

Many of the Executive Orders cited here have been on the books for over a quarter of a century and have not been applied. Therefore, what makes them more dangerous today than yesteryear? There has been a steady, consistent series of new Executive Orders, originating from President Richard Nixon and added to by Presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter and George Bush that provide an ominous Orwellian portrait, the portrait of George Orwell’s 1984.

THE EROSION OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

A series of Executive Orders, internal governmental departmental laws, unpassed by Congress, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 and the Violent Crime Control Act of 1991, has whittled down Constitutional law substantially. These new Executive Orders and Congressional Acts allow for the construction of concentration camps, suspension of rights and the ability of the President to declare Martial Law in the event of a drug crisis. Congress will have no power to prevent the Martial Law declaration and can only review the process six months after Martial Law has been declared. The most critical Executive Order was issued on August 1, 1971. Nixon signed both a proclamation and Executive Order 11615. Proclamation No. 4074 states, “I hereby declare a national emergency”, thus establishing an economic crisis. That national emergency order has not been rescinded.

The crisis that changed the direction of governmental thinking was the anti-Vietnam protests. Fear that such demonstrations might explode into civil unrest, Executive Orders began to be created to allow extreme measures to be implemented to curtail the demonstrations. The recent Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King jury verdict only reinforced the government’s concern about potential civil unrest and the need to have an effective mechanism to curtail such demonstrations.

Here are the later Executive Orders:

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An “emergency czar” was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.

     

  • EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine Colonel Oliver North.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA’s Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA’s role as a “new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis.”

The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a “drug crisis”. It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas. This, teamed with the Executive Orders of the President, enables Orwellian prophecies to rest on whoever occupies the White House. The power provided by these “laws” allows suspension of the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights during any civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes and allows the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of Martial Law.

When the Constitution of the United States was framed it placed the exclusive legislative authority in the hands of Congress and with the President. Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution is concise in its language, “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” That is no longer true. The Bill of Rights protected Americans against loss of freedoms. That is no longer true. The Constitution provided for a balanced separation of powers. That is no longer applicable.

Perhaps it can be summed up succinctly in the words of arch-conservative activist Howard J. Ruff. “Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it.”

 

Obama is moving to center

December 14, 2011

Voters: Yes, Mr. Obama, you are killing economy

(WND) – President identified as ‘one person’ most ‘to blame’ for financial chaos
For years, Barack Obama has diverted attention from his own economic decisions by blaming his predecessor, George W. Bush, for the nation’s financial woes, from deficits to debt to taxes to Medicare and Medicaid spending.
But that strategy has reached the end of its effectiveness, according to a new poll that reveals more people blame Obama for the failed state of the economy now than blame Bush.
A new poll from the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies shows that 22.3 percent of registered voters say Obama is the “one person” most responsible for the nation’s continuing economic troubles.
To the same question, 19.1 percent said George W. Bush. But critical to the coming 2012 election will be the fact that of the independents, on whose votes elections often are decided, nearly 23 percent blame Obama and only 15.5 percent blame Bush. The independents put in second place members of Congress, which is half controlled by Democrats, the poll revealed, ahead of Bush.
Pollster Fritz Wenzel pointed out the scenarios that the White House is facing because of the thinking of the American public.
“Because blame of the Congress is split equally between the Democrats who lead the Senate and Republicans who lead the U.S. House, Obama’s efforts to blame Congress for all of the problems facing the country will backfire by at least 50 percent,” Wenzel said.
“Obama’s current campaign strategy could appear to be particularly selfish, having the ironic effect of killing his support among fellow Democrats in Congress, who will no doubt resent his efforts to sell them out to save his own political skin,” he added.
“At the very least, with twice as many Democratic seats than Republican seats up for grabs [in] next year’s Senate elections, this Obama strategy may well assure that Democrats lose control of the Senate, and is unlikely to result in a Democratic takeover in the U.S. House,” he said.
The poll was conducted Dec. 5-7 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.26 percentage points.
The poll showed that 22.3 percent of registered voters (35.7 percent of Republicans and 22.9 percent of independents) blame Obama as the most responsible for the current economic conditions. A little more than 19 percent blame Bush and 18.3 percent blame Congress.
The poll shows 11.5 percent blame the Democratic Congress of 2009, 11.2 percent blame Wall Street and 10.1 percent blame the U.S. House. Trailing was the Democrat-led U.S. Senate.
“Finally, he is the one now blamed more than any other for the current miserable state of the economy,” Wenzel said.
The poll revealed that those in the lowest earning bracket split the blame between Bush and Obama equally, but every other bracket pinned the bigger share of the blame on Obama.
Interestingly, those “very liberal” participants blamed Obama more (14.1 percent) than either those in the “liberal” (4.1 percent) or “moderate” (6.5 percent) categories.
To the question about whether poll participants believe the United States is going in the right direction, only 23.1 percent said yes.
“There is no way around it – these are terrible numbers. Fewer than one in four Americans feel things are headed in the right direction. And it’s been this way for many months now, which is a serious danger sign for the White House because opinions like this are like cement – the longer they remain unchanged, the more set they become in the minds of voters, and the more difficult they are to change,” Wenzel said.
“The real problem for President Obama stems from the negative view that independents hold about the current state of affairs in the U.S. Just 13 percent of independents think things are headed in the right direction – a number so far below where Obama needs it to be to win re-election that the situation may already be hopeless,” Wenzel said.
A full 74.9 percent of independents believe America is on the wrong track, trailing the 85 percent of the Republicans by only a little. Only 12 percent of independents and 7 percent of Republicans think the nation is on the right track.
Among those who described themselves as “very liberal,” more than one-third (37.3 percent) said the nation is on the wrong track. That opinion rose in every other category (liberal, moderate, conservative, very conservative).
Obama’s efforts also were rejected by every race category (white, black, Hispanic, Asian-other), men and women, and all regions of the country, including a 66 percent to 25 percent rejection in the Obama-friendly East.

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usawatchdog.com rocks

December 8, 2011

  • 1. The provisions were passed as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)—enacted for the last 48 years or so to provide funding for the military and all our wars. (The act for fiscal year 2012 awarded $662 billion for defense spending.) Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Carl Levin (D-MI) took the lead in promoting them, making passage a bipartisan effort/failure.
  • 2. Initially the provisions passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without a single hearing. The Senate didn’t want to spoil the surprise for everybody.
  • 3. Because of the provisions, the NDAA now says the military can detain anyone deemed to be “a part of” or deemed to have “substantially supported” Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or “associated forces.” You can be on the battlefield, or you can be PayPaling money to your local terrorist cell while sipping your latte at a Starbucks—doesn’t matter. Even though we captured Saddam, Osama, and Anwar al-Awlaki, these powers are still necessary. Don’t question.
  • 4. The bill grants power to the military to arrest U.S. citizens on American soil and detain them in military prisons forever without offering them the right to legal counsel or even a trial. This isn’t a totally new thing: “dirty bomb” plotter Jose Padilla spent three-and-a-half years as an “enemy combatant” until he was finally charged. But Padilla’s detention was unusual and sparked a huge outcry; the new provisions would standardize his treatment and enable us all to become Jose Padillas.
  • 5. Some people are trying to say that language regarding indefinite detention (Section 1031) doesn’t apply to American citizens, but it does. However, the mandatory detention requirement (Section 1032) includes an exemption for American citizens, which means the military doesn’t have to imprison you forever and ever “unless ordered to do so” by the president. You better remove that Nobama bumper sticker from your truck.
  • 6. The provisions could last as long as fruitcake lasts. We covered this earlier.
  • 7. Many important people oppose the provisions, including FBI Director Robert Mueller, the CIA, the military, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the head of the Justice Department’s National Security Division, the Director of National Intelligence, and your mom (unless she’s a U.S. senator).
  • 8. A group of 26 retired generals and admirals wrote a letter to the Senate saying the provisions “reduce the options available to our Commander-in-Chief to incapacitate terrorists,” and will “do more harm than good.” The Senate obviously ignored them.
  • 9. According to Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), who opposes indefinite detention of U.S. citizens, an American can be deemed a “terrorist” after just one hearing. Finally, the government promises to work efficiently on something.
  • 10. Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) tried to kill the provision on indefinite detention with an amendment that required Congressional review of these brand-new military detention powers, but his effort failed 60 votes to 38.
  • 11. All the Republican senators supported the provisions except for Paul and Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL).
  • 12. Former Vice President Dick Cheney was in attendance for the vote on behalf of the waterboarding lobby. Every time he heard the words “indefinite detention,” he got an erection.
  • 13. None of this stuff will ever affect people who are innocent of terrorism-related crimes, unless the government wrongly accuses them.
  • 14. As pointed out by Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald, the provision dispenses with Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, which provides that nobody can be punished for treason without heightened due process requirements being met.” Goodbye, Art. 3 Sec. 3! Send our regards to the 4th, 8th, and 14th Amendments.
  • 15. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), one of the provisions’ most vocal supporters, put it this way to the New York Times: “Citizens who are suspected of joining Al Qaeda are opening themselves up ‘to imprisonment and death … And when they say, “I want my lawyer,” you tell them: “Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer. You are an enemy combatant, and we are going to talk to you about why you joined Al Qaeda.”‘” Shut up, fool! Lindsey Graham hates it when you talk.
  • 16. Some of the senators who passed this shit don’t really know what they are talking about when they talk about “enemy combatants” and their status under existing law.
  • 17. President Barack Obama has stated he’ll veto the provisions because they would “raise serious and unsettled legal questions and would be inconsistent with the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets.” They’re also confusing.
  • 18. The provisions will militarize America even further and—in Graham’s words—”basically say[s] in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield.” Your backyard is a microcosm of the war on terror. Just think of that every time you host a barbecue.
  • 19. They could disappear from the NDAA if the House and Senate conferees who meet in conference committee this week decide to get rid of them.
  • 20. Texas Republicans have somehow worked sex with animals into all this.

 

Now for the good news: Greenwald at Salon says none of this indefinite detention without a lawyer stuff changes the status quo that much. It only codifies what’s already been happening in the U.S. for the past few years. So you’ve been living under these conditions for a while now, but look—you’re still not in jail. Just be more careful about what sorts of opinions on the government you post on Twitter, and don’t say anything nice about Al Qaeda, and you’ll be fine.

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United We Stand Divided We Fall

December 6, 2011

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